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Wikevent aims to make it as easy and quick as possible for you to enter information about where and when events you know about will take place. We will accept information under a number of free content licences or which is in the public domain, and will make that information available here, as well as by data feed to any online events calendar which cares to use it.

If this strikes you as an interesting idea please read our goals and non-goals, find something interesting to do on the TODO list, and plunge forward.

Contents

What's happening on Wikevent

We have a Wikevent:News page for current events. It uses Christof's calendar extension, so it's partly a dogfood test.

Active discussions

One good way to find active discussions is to look at Wikevent:Requests for comment. We'll try to keep that page updated with any that's being debated at the moment. It's also a good place to bring up anything you think is likely to generate a debate.

Wikevent Policies and Guidelines

All communities develop rules by which they function and cooperate (even Uncyclopedia !). We mostly have guidelines which is an important distinction, but for now they are grouped together on Wikevent:Guidelines and policies.

Wikevent Promotion

An events calendar without events in it isn't much good now is it? But, for just a few admins and editors to fill the calendar is a monumental task, even with bots. So, we need to recruit as many artist, venues, and fans as possible to help us keep up to date. For this reason we'll be making Wikevent:Calling cards, Wikevent:Flyers, Wikevent:Posters, and other materials for Wikevent:Evangelism.

Other Interesting Wikis

E&OE

Should we have an "E&OE" (Errors and Omissions Excepted) statement somewhere? According to Wikipedia:E&OE "E&OE" "is an initialism standing for errors and omissions excepted. The phrase is used in an attempt to reduce legal liability for incorrect or incomplete information supplied in a contractually related document such as a price list, quotation or specification. It is often applied as a disclaimer in situations in which the information to which it is applied is relatively fast moving. In legal terms, it seeks to make a statement that information cannot be relied upon, or may have changed by the time of use."

If someone from Australia reads on Wikevent that the Wikeventeer_Band is playing in Japan, books a flight and hotel, we do not want to be legally liable in the event that our listing is wrong.

We could either create a new page or put something in Wikevent:Terms_of_Use.

I'm thinking of something along the lines of:

"While all caution is taken to make sure that all content on this website is correct, complete, relevant and true, errors may slip in. Wikevent and it's contributors cannot be held liable for any such errors. It is up to you to verify that events shown on this website are available before committing yourself to any expenditure."

Regards! -- Spike 08:33, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

I like this idea very much. I think we should point out that all events here are user contributed, and before travelling a great distance to attend an event here that people should check with the venue that it's happening, and that it's still on etc. Also the E&OE should point out that if people do discover an error or ommission they should fix it! -- Mark 20:57, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks Mark! I'll make a few edits and post the result here for comment later. Regards! -- Spike 06:11, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Festivals category

I think we could do with a new event "Festivals" category. Although I'm proposing this to cover mainly festivals of the music kind there's no reason not to include Arts, flowers or anything really!. I guess what distinguishes a "festival" event is that two or more performers may be performing at the same time. Comments?. Regards! Spike 12:31, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Go for it! Meanwhile I've also added a festival alias for artist, organizer, etc. in the listing extension. -- Mark 05:46, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Bugs/Tech/UI issues

I'm not sure where we want to put bug/tech/UI reports so I've started off here. I noticed this yesterday when I created Joe Hedges 2007 4 21 that our "where" attribute is flawed in design.

Currently, if someone fills out the attribute like where="Cincinnati/Foo" the output will show Cincinnati/Foo. This isn't really helpful and is somewhat ugly so I formated the value to be where="Columbus/House of Crave|Columbus, OH - House of Crave" so the output looks like Columbus, OH - House of Crave. This is more inline with the way musicians organize their tour schedule information. City first, followed by the State name - Venue name - Dates. See Third Day's tour schedule as an example.

So my request is - can Mark work his magic so that new attributes are included in the event template? Specifically, I'd like to see a

  • venue="" — for users to fill out the name of the venue and it's link on Wikevent.
  • venuecity="" — for users to indicate in which city the venue is located
  • venueregion="" — for users to indiate in which state/province/whatever the venue is located in.

I'd then like all the values to be formatted to display in this fashion: City, State - Venue. This would help people search through the data and would be safety net against contributors that don't know about how to format values in the where= attribute. -- Andrew (Sapphire) 21:34, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

OK, I can see the value of splitting the venue and the venuecity. That should be really helpfull. The region on the other hand is already there, but should be automatically assigned. I'll look at the listing extension this morning on the train. -- Mark 05:48, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
Interesting suggestion Andrew. The first time I read your idea above I could see the advantage to format the output in a more "human-friendly" form, but I was not sure that the "City, State - Venue" was the right way around for the UK. But having thought about it some more, and looked at a few examples on the 'web, I now support your request and format.
For somebody looking to see if it's feasible for them to get to a certain event, the actual venue is probably not as important as the location (City, State).
Best regards to both! -- Spike 06:56, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm thinking of "city or town" as "place", or maybe "cityortown". The problem for me right now is how to transition the existing venues. -- Mark 11:50, 28 March 2007 (UTC)


How about "locality"?
I wouldn't worry about automatically changing existing event listings Mark - I'm not sure we've got what many ;-) These can be changed manually. Best regards! -- Spike 12:40, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
hmmmm. Yeah. Locality is nice. I don't know why I was resisting it. -- Mark 19:38, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
I guess that if there are no reasons not to, it would not hurt to adopt the semantics of microformats. The same applies to "region". What Andrew calls a "State", I call a "County" and I guess you call a "canton" ;-) Very best! -- Spike 06:52, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
OK, it's done. I've just pushed the code. I tested it quite a bit in my development environment, but it would be good if both of you could test it here as well. -- Mark 14:51, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Looks good, so far, but one thing.... region="Ohio" doesn't work. Typically, this won't be a problem, however, it would be really nice of us to disambiguate Columbus, Ohio from Columbus, Georgia. The two most well-known places with the name Columbus. By far the Ohioan is far more famous than its Georgian counterpart, but with a population of nearly 190,000 it may a cause of some confusion. I'm not sure how likely we're to run into a similar problem, but the a few others that could cause some confusion St. Petersburg and Windsor. We won't need a disambiguator if the article name for a place is, say "Venue, Columbus (Georgia)", but for the top-level names like "Venue, Columbus" where there's isn't a disambiguator it'd be helpful. -- Andrew (Sapphire) 19:50, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm. So you want region to add the dis-ambiguator? I'm all for just renaming Columbus (Ohio) to Columbus. -- Mark 20:19, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Ads

I see we've got ads, which is cool – Mark shouldn't bear the full cost of hosting and upkeep. Mark, do you still plan to let users get in on the Google Ads action? -- Andrew (Sapphire) 06:46, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Yes, that's the idea. I haven't written much about what's going on in the background, but unfortunately I have limited time to work on this, so at the moment I'm concentrating on getting everything working. -- Mark 06:50, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Tech: namespace

Mark, could you please set up an additional namespace? Preferably, "Tech:"? I'd like to make making suggestions and bug reporting much easier for us. Plus, it will allow others to comment more easily. -- Andrew (Sapphire) 12:48, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Bump. I figured this got lost between the script edits. -- Andrew (Sapphire) 12:06, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
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